For Thursday, February 16, please read Chapter VII of the Rampolla
"Pocket
Guide to Writing History" (pp. 111-154). This is a long chapter, and I
don't need you to read the whole thing right now. You WILL be using
this a reference for the rest of the semester.
For now, just add to your comments one thing Rampolla says in this chapter that you didn't know before and one thing you already knew but think is particularly important.
Note that the format you will be learning from Rampolla is from the "Chicago Manual of Style." This is almost identical to what's called "Turabian," the style I used during my own university days. Both are close to MLA, another style frequently used in the humanities.
When you end up writing your chapter, it would be best if we could standardize with all students using the Chicago Manual of Style. If you use Turabian or MLA, though, I probably won't notice the difference.
What I *will* notice (and won't
accept) is APA citation style. If you've done most of your papers in
psychology or sociology, that's probably the format you are used to, and
you will need to read the Rampolla chapter a bit more carefully.
The main thing that I struggle with using correctly is footnotes and endnotes while using quotes. I have always felt like I should know how to use them, being a history major and all, however, I was never properly taught nor explained to how it should work. After reading that part of this chapter, I feel more comfortable with using them, however, I will probably still make mistakes while writing my rough drafts, and that's okay! That's what rough drafts are for!
ReplyDeleteThe thing that is hard for me when learning Chicago style format is the footnotes and endnotes. I have been learning about these in my other history classes but I have never done them before in High School. Trying to master them have been difficult but I have learned some tips and tricks from others and this chapter. Endnotes and footnotes are particularly important for this style and mastering them is key for having a successful paper in this style.
ReplyDeleteI also learned from this style that you have to indent long quotations. If the quotations are four or more sentences you have to indent it. Make sure though when your writing your paper that you don't use to many long quotations because then it shows that you don't know much of the text yourself. There is a lot of good information in this chapter and learning how to write in Chicago is very important.
One of the things that confuses me about using Chicago style writing technique is the use of footnotes and endnotes. I was never taught how to use this writing style. My main writing style is MLA, so doing footnotes and endnotes is going to take some time for me to get used to, but as I use this style, I am sure it will come to be easier for me.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I did not really know too much about when it comes to using Chicago style are endnotes and footnotes. A few of my classes this semester require me to start using the style, and it is difficult to switch after I have used MLA for many, if not most of my papers in the past. After reviewing over footnotes and endnotes, they do not seem as bad as I thought before, and they are sort of similar to the author and year referencing from in-text quotations for MLA. Instead of integrating it into the text however, you reference your source on the bottom of the page or at the end of the paper.
ReplyDeleteOne thing specifically in this chapter that I did not really ever know about was when to properly use a quotation. In the past I knew how to integrate a quotation into my papers, but I never knew there was significance to it. Rampolla explained that direct quotation is important when you cannot relay the same message the author of your source had done through their voice. Most of the time paraphrasing and summaries are better than direct quotation, but it can be useful when a source is very punctual, emotional, or hard to condense into your own words.
Something Rampolla talked about that I already knew would have to be organizing a bibliography. All you need to do is arrange your sources in alphabetical order, and your bibliography is properly organized.
Before I never really learned Chicago style, always used MLA style. So, it was helpful that the author went into detail about Chicago style. This whole chapter will definitely be helpful when it come to citations in our chapters. Paraphrasing is also another important thing to know. Not just how but also when. It might be better to paraphrase then use direct quotes.
ReplyDeleteI have never used Chicago style for formatting any of my papers, usually I’ve always used MLA. So, I found it helpful to note that when citing multiple works by the same author in a bibliography, you uses six hyphens in place of the author’s name for the second work. One thing that the chapter noted that I think is important, is that when quoting text if a word is misspelled, don’t fix it. Instead you can add the correct spelling in parentheses or brackets.
ReplyDeleteOne thing Rampolla says that I didn’t know before was when to use paraphrases and when to quote. I was always a little confused about the most appropriate time to use either of these, but thanks to Rampolla I understand now that “Do not quote if you can paraphrase.” (112) and “Do quote if the words in the original are especially memorable.” (113) Now I understand that I should primarily use paraphrasing in a paper and only use quotes sparingly when the original words are unique and cannot be accurately paraphrased. Moreover, I also learned something new from this chapter. I learned that when including nonwritten materials, Rampolla states that “When they appear in the body of a paper, visual materials, like quotations, should be incorporated into the text. Each image should include a caption that identifies it, and the text accompanying any visual material should explain its significance and its relationship to the topic of discussion.” (118)
ReplyDeleteWith this chapter, something that I didn't know was the bit about a source being quoted in another quote on page 133. Something that I find particularly important is the note on personal interviews on page 146. This is extra good since I will be including personal interviews in my chapter of the book.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that I found most helpful in this chapter was definitely the part on Chicago style writing. Since I've never really been taught Chicago style, only MLA and APA style, it was very helpful that Rampolla went into detail about the basics of Chicago style writing. The thing that was the most different for me was the citations, footnotes and endnotes to cite rather than the traditional MLA style citations. The biggest challenge for me in Chicago style writing will be the citations, but I feel a lot more comfortable now that I read this chapter of the book.
ReplyDeleteComing from a debate background, citing sources has become second nature to me. However, we never used footnotes or end notes so those were new to me walking into a Dias course two years ago. Rampolla gave an excellent explanation what they are, how to use them properly, and how to avoid common mistakes.
ReplyDeleteMy own teacher back from high school did talk about the difference between Chicago and MLA. I didn't know really was the difference is. Rampolla gives us lots of information on both and how to properly use sources in Chicago format. I think the most interesting thing in this chapter was all the different ways you can source a article or even a book chapter base on the information given. This will be a huge help for me when I finish up my paper and make sure I properly cite different sources that I use.
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